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ME/CFS - Doctors trained to neglect (part 1 of 4)

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Author: luminescentfeeling
Description: Training video from the British Psychiatric profession to 'teach' family Doctors (GP) that ME/CFS CFIDS patients are mentally ill, are not suffering from a neurological/immune disease, and can thus be 'treated' with psychological interventions such as behavioural therapy (CBT), Graded Exercise (GE) and Pacing. --------------------------------------- Claims made in Part 1 of this video about ME/CFS include: 1) Patients are likely to argue and be difficult people to deal with and cause Doctors - 'frustration'. 2) Have false 'preset ideas' on what causes their illness - such as a 'virus'. 3) Patients believe viruses have damaged their muscles and link this to their condition. 4) People with 'all or nothing' approach to life - develop ME/CFS. 5) Patients associate symptoms with activity - causing disabilty. 6) 75% of patients will be depressed/anxious - both in Hospital and Primary care settings. 7) Patients who feel 'loss of enjoyment' should take anti-depressents - even if not clinically depressed. 8) There is no underlying nerve damage in ME/CFS. 9) ME/CFS is the same thing as chronic fatigue - and this 'fatigue' is directly related to disability and life-style. 10) Patients 'beliefs' can affect how well they will 'engage' in treatement'. 11) Do not correct patients and 'put them right' on their false views in a consultation. Instead, incorporate patients false beliefs [of a 'virus'] into a complex theory of causation that supports 'a number of factors' - so to not scare the patient off. --------------------------------------- N:B Although dated, this video is still distributed in 2008. N:B In 2002, Professor Sir Liam Donaldson (Chief Medical Officer for England/Wales) said: ''"Patients suffer their symptoms being ignored, not being taken seriously, labelled as hypochondriacs, urged to pull themselves together." ''CFS/ME should be classed alongside other diseases such as multiple sclerosis and motor neurone disease''. --------------------------------------- Question: How then, is the psychiatric profession legally allowed to produce information like this - if they have been ordered by higher powers not to? Answer: Because this is what you think, because that would be the moral decision - to STOP disinformation that harms/kills patients. Politics is never moral. Public statements by Government ministers mean nothing - if they have a lot to lose by revealing the cause of ME/CFS. ME/CFS is a politicised illness because the Government know the cause. (Most likely Pesticides).
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We reported the differential expression of 88 human genes in patients with CFS; 85 of these genes were upregulated and 3 were downregulated. The top functional categories of these 88 genes were hematologic disease and function, immunologic disease and function, cancer, cell death, immune response, and infection. Gene signatures in each subtype implicate five human genes as possible targets for specific therapy. Dr Jonathan Kerr - Current Rheumatology Reports 2008, 10:482-491

There are many problems with the interview, but there are many problems with the commentary as well. Namely: The naming has been juggled around through a dozen different labels; don't blame the doctor for having chosen the one that seems to be prevalent, even on wikipedia, for example. Given the pain, jitteriness and weakness, I can see someone describing the muscles as feeling damaged. Viruses are not known to be THE trigger, they're known to be A trigger. I could go on, but out of space.

What would impress me is if in place of the "Testimonial's" link he instead posted a series of studies that show the medication he is using to be effective. I am very leery of anyone implying positive results from any product or service where there are no studies to back them up. Normally we call this "Quackery"

This is "institutionalized medical fraud" The problem is that most of the "professionals" believe what they are talking about is as much fact as that which the sun rises in the east every morning. They suffer from a severe form of retardation I call "the retarded disconnect" You can cure them of this retardation instantly by putting a document in front of them to sign that says if what they are saying is wrong they will be responsible to make all those hurt by their statements whole again.

Haven't these idiots ever heard of enteroviruses?

they get payed for this psychbabble !!!!!!!!!! well welcome back to the early 1900's and the 1960's . i remember when MS was a psychological disase. Perhaps this lot a reincarnations of bedlam doctors

The only treatment that seems to work are high doses of antiviral drugs. Dr. Martin Lerner treats his CFS patients with antiviral drugs. There are people who regain their health. Only rich people can afford this (experimental)treatment in Dr. Lerner's clinic in the US. Antiviral drugs are not available to the vast majority of low or middle income groups CFS patients. If you have the finances you have a lot more opportunities to get well.

The day that members of the psychiatric lobby including Miss Chalder shown in this video decide to retire from 'medicine' will not be a day too soon.The harm they are doing to vulnerable, sick human beings is immeasurable and inexcusable.Go away and study virology,neurology and the immune system to really absorb in your brains the efects that infecting agents (viruses and bacteria) have on the bodys cells.There are plenty of us who would love to have our voices heard on 'fact' based medicine.

I'm a psych undergrad and I am ashamed of this kind of propaganda. I will NEVER treat anyone that comes to me with CFS/ME in the way that this woman is encouraging doctors to treat them. She's lucky she's never had to experience what it's like to live with the condition and she can shove her psychobabble where the sun doesn't shine.

and psychiatrists such as above are saying this 'so the 'stone' of stress has broken your 'window' of physcial health, the cause is stopping the stones! And forget the fact that the window is smashed - it's imaginary that you need to replace it..ME is in my case an overlapping of thryoid problems (which are poorly diagnosed by NHS), immune suppression, food intolerances (candida), toxins caused by above and stress..

ps the story of the three blind men and the elephant sums up what i learn't of ME's true workings..three blind men are asked by the owner of an elephant to feel different parts of it without telling them what it is..one says it's a snake (the trunk), one says it's a tree trunk (the leg), the last a branch (the tail)..they can't see the complete whole picture, ME can be intiated/exacerbated by stress..but like a stone hitting a window smashing it, stopping throwing stones won't replace the window

ps I beat severe chronic CFS/ME/Fibromyalgia. I had it since my early twenties and never believed i could beat it..the first step in beating any chronic illness, or any chronic problem in life for that matter is to keep telling yourself you 'will beat it and every problem in your life', you 'will dominate it' and see yourself (for example) crushing it under foot as a 'black ball' however impossible or difficult it is/seems..only with this mindset will you be able to start to fight and work on..

patronising narrow minded middle class wankers above!!when something is classed as a syndrome it means it's a complicated disorder involving many interacting factors mental AND physical..it's neither all physical nor all mental, and it isn't people who are 'all or nothing', CFS/ME hits people who have been through severe traumatic stress, physical or mental..such as bereavement, or even toxic poisoning as the poster of this vid mentions..though thats more common amongst people like farmers

watching these videos makes my skin crawl. my doctor says he believes me although i sense he doesnt. i haven't been to see him for 2 years because it is pointless. this video suggest, nay tells us that we are demanding treatment. i do not recieve benefits either, because a twat i had never ever met said i was depressed. so i recieve nothing from the DSS & NHS, but yet i am demanding everything according to the prick in this video. i do not feel sorry for myself and will beat the illness one day

with the comment about her being a psychiatrist and teaching GPs about medicine, psychiatrists ARE doctors who've specialized their training. but yeh I still have seen this situation with doctors so many times. they don't understand.

This is grim, I thought doctors were supossed to be intelegent, or maybe they are just def

This is still circulated by the Institute of Psychiatry, 2008!

excellent post.....yes the Blood Bank bank ban is strange to say the least.....l have often wandered about this

This video is still distributed by the Institute Of Psychiatry, 2008.

They are all so patronising in this video! When was this made? (A while ago I hope!) I wonder if they have changed their minds now, or if they are still ignoring the evidence even now, when research is finally giving us some clues about this life-changing illness.

There is lots of Cash in ME ££££

Have you all read the governments response to the petition that was sent to them last year about ME/CFS? Its scandalous to say the least. My daughter who doesnt have CFS/ME was treated appalingly for a few years because they incorrectly diagnosed her with CFS/ME. Non of the doctors know the difference between true ME/CFS and ordinary fatigue which is frightening. To see the goverments report check out my site or go to the Downing street web site.

I've experienced this condescending attitude. This is medical negligence and negligence.

I've experienced this condescending attitude. This is medical negligence and negligence.

Specialists spoke to me in this condescending way despite having very abnormal test results in front of their noses. Mocked internet support groups, ignored my barely being able to walk/abnormal gait. Basically made fun of me and gave horrible medical advice. Almost exactly like this. If I could think or walk my way out of it don't they think I WOULD!? Ignorant jerks!

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