Those are the studies referenced in the article. Faircogent asked for studies so he got studies. You've already seen that article. I can't believe you forgot so fast.

what does "(19-21)" mean koolaid?

fair cogent, are you also an athiest? cos thats one of my favourite quotes ;>

I don't buy the lucky guess explanation for how "hiv" could be there even though the "discoverers" never actually found any. You may also like this...google....20 unanswerable questions for aids inc 11. Why are very high "viral loads" found in HIV-negative individuals? (19-21) & Questioning HIV/AIDS: Morally Reprehensible or Scientifically Warranted? which cites studies showing the meds are harming, not helping, the lack of an epidemic, failure of Koch's postulates etc.

google... Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal Science To Retract Original AIDS Papers December 9, 2008 a British investigative journalist has shown that Gallo's claim was based on last-minute alterations to documents...includes a copy of Gallos handwritten changes to the article,a letter from an electron microscopy expert indicating that Gallos samples did not contain any virus,& a letter from Gallo to a researcher verifying that HIV could not be purified directly from human materials.

You missed the latest. Go Look at Gallo's original "proof." Those are the papers people have been citing for 25 years.

No science? It satisfies Koch's Postulates beyond a reasonable doubt, as well as other evidences such as the effectiveness of antiretroviral treatments, statistical correlations of infection/symptom rates, viral load analysis, etc. No science indeed? The case is quite conclusive. Again, if you have an alternative hypothesis that better describes the observations feel free to publish... otherwise, sorry, what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

You don't have any science based evidence proving "hiv" causes aids. Even the great discoverers Gallo & Montagnier never found any in a human being. We did not purify [isolate] ... We saw some particles but they did not have the morphology [shape] typical of retroviruses ... They were very different ... What we did not have, as I have always recognized it, is that it was truly the cause of AIDS. Dr. Luc Montagnier, Virologist, co-discoverer of HIV, Pasteur Institute, Paris Rethinkaids com

No it isn't. Even Gallo never found this supposed virus of mass destruction. I already said I don't buy the "luckiest guess in world" scenario. You can if you like.

aaah the sweet smell of reason

"Tough if you don't like it." You say this quite often, its quite amusing. As if you were the one in the position to dish out tough love! Let me remind you that the science, evidence, research and governments are on our side. tough if you dont like it :P

HIV doesn't cause AIDS, eh? Publish it, peer review it, let's see some science based evidence. Don't have it? Okay then, conspiracy nonsense dismissed.

You misunderstood.....the PREMISE that there is a virus of mass destruction IS based on Gallo's papers. That's it period. He announced it at a press conference in 1984. It's on camera. It's part of the historical record. The entire theory that there is a virus causing aids is based on FRAUDULENT papers. They also have a letter form Gallo admitting he couldn't isolate any such virus from a human being. Tough if you don't like it.

HIV is not based on one article. it wasnt even the first article linking HIV to AIDS. "Are you trying to say that even though Gallo never actually found such a virus in a human being he got it right anyway?" Gallo isolated virus from human tissue, whether you and your dickhead denialists like it or not. its fantastically ironic that you brought up the maggiore incident- claiming she was alive and well after donkeys years of HIV infection; not true i guess - like most of your 'facts'

So you're saying that it's good science to cross out the actual findings of a study and pencil in whatever you want to put there? The entire premise that there is a virus of mass destruction killing people IS based on those papers. Are you trying to say that even though Gallo never actually found such a virus in a human being he got it right anyway? That must be the luckiest guess in all the history of the world. I want him to pick my lottery numbers for me.

So hows the lawsuit going koolaid? Have these "top Journalists/scientists" managed to get robert gallo's article pulled? What is their aim? do they intend to start from the beginning and attepmt to get every article that so much as mentions HIV pulled from the journals? cos thats what they'll have to do. Do you seriously think that the whole theory of HIV is based on one article? bloody moron

I'm geussing you dont know what science is

It will only be his undoing if he's standing in the way of the lawsuits coming. How long do these hiv people think this scam is going to go on with Gallo's original "proof" now online for everyone to see for themselves? It's only a matter of time at this point.

Look at the comment he posted in my profile. He seems like a nice guy who's ego has taken control of his life. He's blinded by scientific religion, and this will be his undoing.

google... Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal Science To Retract Original AIDS Papers December 9, 2008 a British investigative journalist has shown that Gallo's claim was based on last-minute alterations to documents...includes a copy of Gallos handwritten changes to the article,a letter from an electron microscopy expert indicating that Gallos samples did not contain any virus,& a letter from Gallo to a researcher verifying that HIV could not be purified directly from human materials.

You're a poorly informed, abusive ass. EVEN GALLO never found this alleged virus of mass destruction in a human being. I'm not buying the "he made a very very very very lucky guess" scenario. I'm guessing you have no idea what a false premise is.

Have you read Christine Maggiore's new book entitled "Dead and Dumb"? And there is a posthumous documentary which she finished before her death called "How I killed my 3 year old because I'm a stupid cunt". Good riddance!!! Too bad she can't die again, only more painfully since her moronic ideas are killing people!!

i cant wait... will it be of the whole debate? or will it be edited dubiously?

Christian Anders debated Duesberg. Soon you will find it on youtube......

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